Jesse cannot answer whether he thinks wrongdoing will occur in heaven. He’s too fragile to admit he’s wrong. And that is bad faith.
1. God is eternal.
2. God is eternally active such that His being is always manifesting Truth, Goodness, and Beauty.3. There is no change or quit in God, and therefore no change or quit in His attributes.
Therefore, if Jesse maintains that God’s Justice is retributive - reactive to wrongdoing - then he logically assumes that wrongdoing is eternal.
But that violates the scriptural and orthodox representation that through Christ’s sacrifice, eternal redemption or eternal redemption & eternal damnation will be accomplished once for all eternity.
So what happens to an eternal God’s eternal attribute of Justice if wrongdoing has been stopped by perfection of retributive justice? And for that matter, was this attribute just dormant before creation? Only to be wakened up by the eating of an apple? Or prior to that the rebellion of angel?
This notion violates the necessity that any attribute of God is eternally expressed. In God, being and act are the same.
Therefore the Church Fathers and orthodox theology has ever understood the eternal Justice of God to be expressed as perfect orderliness according to Truth, Goodness, and Beauty. And as Truth is perfect with God, always and everywhere perfectly accomplished and accomplishing always and everywhere… there cannot be wrongdoing. Eternity as characterized by the eternal God’s attribute of eternal Justice can only mean a perfect distribution of the appropriate perfect goods to everything. This an ancient and long standing Christian conception.
Everything is in such perfect and Just harmony, even into Creation, until creatures in Free Will chose wrongdoing. In created space and time. In history. Of which there will be an end.
The choosing of wrongdoing upsets and corrupts the perfect order, the Truth and Goodness and Beauty of everything God creates. The attributes creatures are given in being made in the image and likeness of God are marred, and so correction is necessary to bring everything back into perfection.
Christian faith professes that this correction has been fully accomplished (among a host of other accomplishments) by Christ’s sacrifice and will be fully realized at the end of history, the Judgment.
Thereupon, the eternal God’s eternal attribute of Justice - the perfect and appropriate distribution of perfect goods to everything - will be eternally and perfectly cooperated with by Free and perfected creatures.
This is the only logical and faithful sense making of the eternal God’s eternal attribute of Justice.
Deliberate and quiet avoidance is the best answer for your type. You're just too stupid to be taken seriously yet you are too dumb even to realize that. Any theological tradition would stomp you.
ReplyDeleteYou need to demonstrate that to be credible.
Delete“Avoidance” is the strategy of the puffed-up, empty-handed dilettante.
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